DF83 vs. P100

It is a report about the comparison between DF83 with 83mm Itamil burrs and P100 with 98mm SSP HU burrs. It shows their performances in doing Pour over.
Recipe :
Coffee beans:15g
Hot water (92 degree Celsius): 250g ( tap water filtered through Brita)
Dripper: Origami
Filter paper: Origami
Grind size: medium fine
Technique: YT Vince‘s one pour technique
Coffee: Light roast

left: DF83 right: P100

coffee beds:


Findings:
I tried my best to grind coffee at similar size and the coffee beds show that DF83 produces more fines. I did a blind test with the filtered coffee at warm and cold temperatures twice. When I drank them warm, I picked P100 out as a more favorable one each time. DF83 has an obvious bitter taste; P100 tastes intensive and no bitterness; it has more clarity with better notes separation. When they were consumed cold, the bitterness of DF83 faded out and tastes smooth; whereas acidity of P100 comes to front.
My thoughts: basically they are both capable of making enjoyable filer coffee but with no doubt P100 stands out between these two.

 

Please check this video
This experiment shows that the most flavours are extracted out within 2 minutes.
As you can see in my pictures, the coffee is ground finer and Origami is a relatively fast dripper, so I think the time should be fine. Of course there is possibility to optimize as well.

 

The fact that DF83 produces more fines won't change. If a different recipe is similar to this one, I guess this comparison will be valid.

 

It is loud, but not so disturbing for me. Because it grinds pretty fast.

BTW it vibrates truly a lot.

 

I assume It shines at dealing with light roast, either espresso or pour over. I found 98 SSP HU can extract more flavours out of beans in comparison to Itamil. The taste is brighter.
Actually I also compared P100 with the Kinu M68 yesterday. P100 has unfolded more layers than M68.
Clarity: P100>DF83>M68

 

No worries! It's totally fine.

 

Actually I'm not so suprised. Don't forget M68 is a conical, similar to Niche. If M68 is a bass, then P100 is a tenor. Each plays its role in coffee world.
For those who like lively acidity, P100 makes a nice pick.

 

IMHO for the grinder itself DF83 is quite solid and worth every cent. But if you want a SD brew only grinder, you should probably wait a while for some better burrs.
Whereas P100 is high end. The design and build quality are of course on a next level for the extra paid price. I would choose SSP brew burrs over HU burrs if it is meant to be a brew only grinder.
I enjoy using them both! You can pick either of them within your budget.

 

No, I don't own a df64 with those mentioned burrs. I can't judge if they are better brew burrs than the stock df83. What I said is that there are prossibly in the future a series of new 83mm SSP burrs being available which perform better as brew burrs than the stock itamill burrs.