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    Hi Patrick,

    you´re truly now King Of Beans..:lol:

    Since you dont need the Probat anymore, i´d recycle it for you...:cool:

    ralph
     
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    Respekt!
     
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    Das Ding sieht ja echt interessant aus. Ist ein 500 g Röster oder. Von welcher Firma ist der, was kostet der, Gasbetrieben oder, hat ja Abluft wie sieht es mit der Rauchentwicklung im Raum aus.
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    The roaster takes a load from 200 grams minimum up to 520 grams maximum, it can be made to run (burn) on natural gas or LPG (propane and or butane).
    I bought it direct from the manufacturer (Yang Chia) in Taiwan who also makes large industrial roasters. This one (model 800N) I bought is a miniaturized copy of one of the larger industrial models). It is the first sale of them of this roaster to anyone in Europe and all went really well, no problems at all. (I do have some experience in import/export and all related documents etc)
    There is virtually no excess smoke in the roasting room as the separate exhaust ventilators for the roasting chamber and cooler work very well.
    It is too early yet to give a complete report on the roaster but I am very satisfied with it so far.
    The controllability is excellent, gas pressure, exhaust fan and drum speed can all be adjusted.
    There is a trier (bean sampler) and sightglass and the (seperate) cooler and the roaster itself is well built.
    The cooler works very good and has a seperate exhaust ventilator and seperate controls for stirring mechanism and ventilator.
    Upwarm time is pretty short (my timer has gone on the fritz so exact times will be reported after). There is an alarm when setpoint is reached (can be turned off or on).
    Once the alarm goes off when the roaster has preheated you add the beans (open the chute) for the dehydration stage that goes on for app two to six minutes depending on load and humidity of beans. (load is from 200 to 520 grams).
    Then you either stop the roast and cool it (for double roasting) or continue on to the actual roasting stage that is completely controllable due to control of gas pressure (flame intensity), exhaust speed and drum speed. There is a pid that shows actual drum temperature and a seperate exhaust thermometer that can be watched.
    The chaff collector works very well with almost no chaff left in the roasted bean mass.

    The controllability is such that roasts can easily be repeated (duplicated) once a profile is to your satisfaction.
    This is the roaster that I've really wanted as the burners run on gas and temperatures can easily be adjusted (ramped up or down very rapidly) compared to electric roasters.
    I know someone that has been roasting with one of these baby's for over a year now in a coffeeshop and uses it very intensively (minimum of 8 to 10 roasts a day) without any problems or breakdowns at all.

    The roaster is amazingly well built (heavy duty) especially considering the costs.
    Excellent value for money spent. The total costs for the roaster (including transport from the factory to the port of loading in Kaohsiung Taiwan, from Taiwan to Rotterdam by ship (the roaster was packaged well, strapped down in a wooden crate and covered with plastic sheeting) from Rotterdam to my place in Hoensbroek, The Netherlands, storage in Rotterdam, import duties, taxes etc.), where less then Euro 2500,- (due in a large part to the devaluation of the dollar).
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    Das hört sich ja alles sehr gut an selbst der Preis ist durch den günstigen Dollar recht günstig.
    Werden 500 g wirklich noch gleichmäßig? Oft ist ja die maximale Füllung nicht grade das optimale. Bin auf dein Erfahrungsbericht gespannt.
    Gunnar
     
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    Yes, very, very, very even and gleichmäßig, even more so then the (electric) 3 barrel Probat.
    I will be doing some more roasting tomorrow and will take some more pics then.
    I have been pleasantly surprised so far with this machine, have owned quite a few roasters from different manufacturers over the years and this one has the best value for money that I have ever owned.
    It really is a miniaturized industrial roaster....
     
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    I roasted 6 batches of 500 grams each today, some more pics on this link:

    Picasa Web Albums - Patrick - New coffee ro...

    This roaster is excellent for creating/repeating profiles and making any on the fly adjustments.
     
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    Zapty und wie bist du mit deinem Röster nach den ersten Monaten zufrieden?
    Klappt alles oder gibt es doch versteckte Mängel oder Sachen die verbessert werden könnten?
    Hab ich schon nach dem Filter gefragt? Kann man den reinigen oder bekommt man neue zu zivilen Preis.
    Gunnar
     
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    Hello Gunnar,

    Nice to hear from you.
    Drop by sometime to see the roaster.
    I am very happy with the roaster and think that for price and build/roast quality it is the best roaster available right now.
    It is a real little professional roaster.
    Of course there would always be things that could be improved but in my view any improvements could definitely not be made for the price that I paid.
    You can always get more expensive roasters but this one would still be hard to beat.
    It is a solid piece of machinery.
    There is no filter but an exhaust that in my case leads outside.
    No smoke whatsoever inside due to excellent heavy duty fan motors, one for the roasting chamber and another one for the cooling tray.
    It has an excellent professional chaff collector and can go up to 5 roasting cycles without being emptied.

    The range is from 200 to 520 grams of green beans and it roasts all quantities in this range very well.
    I am impressed with it and I have owned quite a few roasters, home roasters, semi pro roasters and a few pro roasters and I like this one the most.
    It comes closest to a real pro experience.

    You are welcome to visit.

    Best regards,

    Patrick

     
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    Hello Gunnar,

    You need to set up a decent chimney and vent it outside is all. (for a hobby roaster like myself) For professionals there are stricter rules.

    best regards,

    zapty
     
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    Hello Zapty,

    how is the procedure to get the great thing to Europe (I would like to have it in Fürth/Germany)?

    I mean sending nearly 3000EUR to Taiwan and then waiting 3 month for a ship comming to Hamburg is the same as gambling. There may come something or not, i do not have the smalest chance to get my money back if no machine arives at my home.

    Another question is what about a repair in the first year or even later.

    How did you get this machine which seems to be very good.

    Best regards
    Hermann
     
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    Hello Hermann,

    You do not have to worry about not getting this roaster at all, it is a very legitimate company.
    I have arranged all through Mr. Chao-Shen Yang, the owner of Yang-Chia Machine Works CO., Ltd. and responsible person for these roasters.
    Yes, they do require you to pay in advance which in my opinion is no more then reasonable.
    The payment is made to their bank account so you always will have a record of that.
    I have had absolutely no problems with this purchase and or shipping of the roaster to my address.
    You have to specify what model, gas or electric, type of gas (natural or LPG), voltage etc....
    Also arrange for Mr. Chao-Shen Yang to send the roaster to you CIF, they have arrangements with shipping companies so the shipping costs will be a lot cheaper for you.
    Also get Mr. Chao-Shen Yang to send you the original documents by courier as soon as the roaster has shipped in order to claim the roaster from German customs.
    Original documents are:

    1) Invoice
    2) Bill of Lading
    3) Packing list
    4) Certificate of origin

    It is a well built professional roaster and I know people who have been roasting with it commercially in their coffeeshop for more then 8 hours a day for two years who have not had any breakdowns or problems at all.
    The service of Yang-Chia Machine Works is excellent and the roaster is fully guaranteed for a year. Parts are easily gotten from the company.
    All parts are heavy duty, as they should be for a pro roaster.

    In my opinion it is the best roaster on the market for the money you pay for it.
    Great results with it.
    Really, there is absolutely no chance on it not showing up, I was their first customer in Europe and all went extremely well.

    I made the payment october 10, the roaster was shipped on october 18 and arrived in Rotterdam on november 12. It then took a few days to get through customs and I then arranged transport through the shipping agent to my address.
    Lead time is approximately 45 days from day payment has been received in their bank account, not three months.

    Te roaster was well packaged and strapped on a pallet covered in plastic.

    Hope this helps, let me know if you need any more info and tell Mr. Chao-Shen Yang you talked to me when and if you contact him.

    Best regards,

    Patrick Kemp
     
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    Thanks very much Patrick,

    also für your detailed answer to my private questions (I forgot to thank you recently...)

    I'll order mine in the next few days, I'm already extemely curious about it.

    Greetings \\//

    Marcus
     
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    You are very welcome, best of luck with this purchase and I do not think you will be disappointed at all with the decision to buy this particular roaster.
    It has served me extremely well, any profile at all is attainable, you can adjust drum speed, exhaust flow, gas pressure. There is a temperature setting alarm built in....
    Roasting charge is from 100 to 550 grams.
    The chaff collector works extremely well and easily cleaned, the bean cooler is excellent and also ventable to the outside, just like the main drum exhaust.

    Best regards,

    Patrick
     
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    my next vacation will be in the area around the horn of africa [​IMG] harrr

    k
     
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    Just make sure you watch out for those African Killer bees, they would surely love you......
     
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    Hello Zapty,

    thank you for the fast and detailed answer how you ordered the 800N and the procedure i have to follow.
    Hey do you get any money for your 105% positive messages about the device and the company?
     
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    Wish it was so... no, I only want anyone to share in my positive experience with this roaster that offers excellent value for the money spend. i have otherwise no interests at all in any business ventures, I worked hard all my life and do not need the hassles.
    I would have become their dealer in Europe if I wanted to make money out of it. believe me, making money is far from important to me, I want to mostly enjoy my life and make the most out of it. Having enough to just live comfortably is plenty and it doesn't take all that much to live comfortably...
    Enjoying life is to me getting pleasure out of all the little things that so many people do not notice anymore like having good friends, family, a bird singing, beatiful flowers, a good cup of coffee, nice conversations, the rising and setting of the sun, a walk in nature etc.......
     
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